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    Let it go Bro!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    There is the past, past, as in what happened in 1984 and in 2000 with the name change that likely will not be able to be changed. I agree, not much point in rehashing it except to keep everything in perspective because many of the subsequent decisions are confounding. Then there is the very recent past with a La Louisiane edition on branding that was abandoned shortly thereafter. A brand name has value and can add prestige to the university with national recognition. The inability to have a firm policy on our brand leads to the multiple variations in use, not to mention the UL X identity that some tie us to academically and athletically with ULM. Use of our Louisiana brand seems to be maintained in an on-again, off-again mode that is perplexing even to us diehard UL fans. I have expressed my concerns in great detail to Dr. S with no response. This year is our 30th anniversay since the 1984 University of Louisiana name change and graduating class. After 30 years, we are still consumed with an identity crisis. Just look at another thread on this board with a UL alumnus/LSU grad student who refuses to recognize his own university as Louisiana. We are the only university in the country seemingly required by everyone from individuals to media to use only its legal name in all athletic matters. This is a state-wide as well as national phenomenon. UL is smack dab in the middle of the strongest economic and fastest growing city/Acadiana region with arguably the most powerful political delegation in the state, yet appears to have little leverage in getting this name debacle corrected. We walk on egg shells around our name issue while an anemic ULM manipulates us and LA Tech proclaims itself the far superior university and Flagship of North Louisiana, while mocking us for who they say we pretend to be. This is a problem that will never go away unless/until it is properly and fully addressed and a permanent position/solution stated. Just my opinion.
    I'm late to the party but I couldn't agree more with this. This name thing has been a fiasco of epic proportions. This magical day where everyone refers to us as the University of Louisiana ain't coming. Time for Plan B.

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    During the pre-game of the UNT/La Tech game last night, we were given a new name by the announcers. They repeated called us Laff-I-ette as they showed highlights of the bludgeoning that Tech administered to us last week. They weren't saying Louisiana Laff-I-ette, just Laff-I-ette. I don't think they were being sarcastic, I think it was just their attempt to speak a little Cajun. I didn't care for it though. This has not been a fun week to be a Cajun fan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oiler View Post
    During the pre-game of the UNT/La Tech game last night, we were given a new name by the announcers. They repeated called us Laff-I-ette as they showed highlights of the bludgeoning that Tech administered to us last week. They weren't saying Louisiana Laff-I-ette, just Laff-I-ette. I don't think they were being sarcastic, I think it was just their attempt to speak a little Cajun. I didn't care for it though. This has not been a fun week to be a Cajun fan.
    We brought it on ourselves. The administration started it with the hyphen memo and then compounded it with the "fill in the blank" PA call. Then the game last week was the turd in the punchbowl to provide even more opportunity to rub salt in the wound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer58 View Post
    We brought it on ourselves. The administration started it with the hyphen memo and then compounded it with the "fill in the blank" PA call. Then the game last week was the turd in the punchbowl to provide even more opportunity to rub salt in the wound.
    The Battle for the Name is the best recruiting tool UL academics has going right now.

    Yet some with Martin Hall Marketing are content to curl up and become known as Lafayette II.

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    Hi, I'm a new poster and live in lafayette. I have worked at several universities across the state, and just wanted to give you my non flaming opinion on using Louisiana or UL.
    For me I have never opposed ULL using UL for athletics. The problem I have is academics which for an university is inherently linked. This state is currently home to 3 tier 1 universities. Those universities are Tulane, LSU, and La Tech. None of those schools have a regional identifier and two of them using Louisiana in their name. I think that it shows bad on our state for a school without a tier 1 ranking to use the full state name. It is about academics and state prestige, not on some grand plan to hate on ULL.
    In fact if ULL was to break the tier 1 rankings I would have no issue calling it UL and if the became higher ranked than Tulane I would call the BLU (the best university in Louisiana) but until such time I can not get behind it.
    If I was an Acadiana legislator I would introduce a bill at the legislator that stated that all tier 1 universities that maintain that ranking for x years has the ability to change their official name to include the Louisiana with no regional affiliation. I bet you could get full support for that, and then it would be up to the students and administration to achieve that goal.
    TL;DR: ULL has to improve academically to become UL. And once they do, which it appears they are on the right path, then they can become UL. Until then I don't want an academically inferior university using Louisiana without a regional identifier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Hi, I'm a new poster and live in lafayette. I have worked at several universities across the state, and just wanted to give you my non flaming opinion on using Louisiana or UL.
    For me I have never opposed ULL using UL for athletics. The problem I have is academics which for an university is inherently linked. This state is currently home to 3 tier 1 universities. Those universities are Tulane, LSU, and La Tech. None of those schools have a regional identifier and two of them using Louisiana in their name. I think that it shows bad on our state for a school without a tier 1 ranking to use the full state name. It is about academics and state prestige, not on some grand plan to hate on ULL.
    In fact if ULL was to break the tier 1 rankings I would have no issue calling it UL and if the became higher ranked than Tulane I would call the BLU (the best university in Louisiana) but until such time I can not get behind it.
    If I was an Acadiana legislator I would introduce a bill at the legislator that stated that all tier 1 universities that maintain that ranking for x years has the ability to change their official name to include the Louisiana with no regional affiliation. I bet you could get full support for that, and then it would be up to the students and administration to achieve that goal.
    TL;DR: ULL has to improve academically to become UL. And once they do, which it appears they are on the right path, then they can become UL. Until then I don't want an academically inferior university using Louisiana without a regional identifier.
    Haha this is funny! You got to be joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Hi, I'm a new poster and live in lafayette. I have worked at several universities across the state, and just wanted to give you my non flaming opinion on using Louisiana or UL.
    For me I have never opposed ULL using UL for athletics. The problem I have is academics which for an university is inherently linked. This state is currently home to 3 tier 1 universities. Those universities are Tulane, LSU, and La Tech. None of those schools have a regional identifier and two of them using Louisiana in their name. I think that it shows bad on our state for a school without a tier 1 ranking to use the full state name. It is about academics and state prestige, not on some grand plan to hate on ULL.
    In fact if ULL was to break the tier 1 rankings I would have no issue calling it UL and if the became higher ranked than Tulane I would call the BLU (the best university in Louisiana) but until such time I can not get behind it.
    If I was an Acadiana legislator I would introduce a bill at the legislator that stated that all tier 1 universities that maintain that ranking for x years has the ability to change their official name to include the Louisiana with no regional affiliation. I bet you could get full support for that, and then it would be up to the students and administration to achieve that goal.
    TL;DR: ULL has to improve academically to become UL. And once they do, which it appears they are on the right path, then they can become UL. Until then I don't want an academically inferior university using Louisiana without a regional identifier.
    If you believe that this university is academically inferior, I can't help you.

    Only LSU, with all of its resources, is a superior public institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    Haha this is funny! You got to be joking.
    No joke, talking about disrespect on a message board or complaining to espn-Bristol (the funniest line I have heard in a while) has done nothing but turn the national media into trolls going out of their way to not give ULL the name UL. Just Improve the academic rankings and get the official name changed. It is a plan and ULL is a rising university. Better than sending official letters that I am sure is posted in the espn break room for everyone to laugh at.

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    I don't believe it us news and world reports it in ink. I agree the LSU has superior resources, but can you really say that La Tech has had far superior resources?


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    What are you talking about? Every University has a regional identifier for example, Alabama(Tuscaloosa), Texas (Austin), Georgia (Athens). They are a couple that just use University of the state but that is few and far between. Most have the city tag included in there name.

    The state would never allow just a University of the state because of ULM. Even LSU is LSUAMBR.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    I don't believe it us news and world reports it in ink. I agree the LSU has superior resources, but can you really say that La Tech has had far superior resources?
    Agree, LTU does have less resources: lower number of students, lower number of grad students, lower endowment, lower research dollars, lower number of graduate programs, less endowed professorships, smaller research park, smaller physical campus, smaller athletic facilities, etc. The list goes on and on.

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    Can't get worked up for ragingolfer he is just a troll trying to stir the pot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Hi, I'm a new poster and live in lafayette. I have worked at several universities across the state, and just wanted to give you my non flaming opinion on using Louisiana or UL.
    For me I have never opposed ULL using UL for athletics. The problem I have is academics which for an university is inherently linked. This state is currently home to 3 tier 1 universities. Those universities are Tulane, LSU, and La Tech. None of those schools have a regional identifier and two of them using Louisiana in their name. I think that it shows bad on our state for a school without a tier 1 ranking to use the full state name. It is about academics and state prestige, not on some grand plan to hate on ULL.
    In fact if ULL was to break the tier 1 rankings I would have no issue calling it UL and if the became higher ranked than Tulane I would call the BLU (the best university in Louisiana) but until such time I can not get behind it.
    If I was an Acadiana legislator I would introduce a bill at the legislator that stated that all tier 1 universities that maintain that ranking for x years has the ability to change their official name to include the Louisiana with no regional affiliation. I bet you could get full support for that, and then it would be up to the students and administration to achieve that goal.
    TL;DR: ULL has to improve academically to become UL. And once they do, which it appears they are on the right path, then they can become UL. Until then I don't want an academically inferior university using Louisiana without a regional identifier.
    Real simple,

    1) Tulane was sold by the State to a private entity, they are out of the equation, they do not represent the State.

    2) LSU purchased its status as the "PREMIER Flagship" which means there can be more than one.

    3) Hypothetically if UL were to remove its lowest performing students to come into a sheer numbers equalization with LA Tech's 12,000 students, where would the two schools rank?

    Fact/opinion: Just because the UL student base represents the entire state to a greater extent than any school yet mentioned, its extreme diversity cannot be used as a negative reason for not representing the State of Louisiana as UL.

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    Ok I am not trying to troll you. It appears the media is doing a good enough job of that, but when it comes to rainking universities there is the gold standard us news and world reports. Sure their are others, but whatever metrics they use La Tech is superior, at the end of the day and hating on me can not change that fact. I admire your fans passion and say with out a doubt you are the 2nd most passionate fanbase in la.
    Trying to use diversity in an argument when it really comes down to admission standards is not a good metric. In that case could you make a case that SU and GSU are not more diverse?
    Edit: if you take the top 70% of any univeristy of course they will rank higher


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Trying to use diversity in an argument when it really comes down to admission standards is not a good metric. In that case could you make a case that SU and GSU are not more diverse?
    Increased numbers was the point, diversity is a by product of having a greater roll in representing the State of Louisiana within the University of Louisiana System.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingolfer View Post
    Ok I am not trying to troll you. It appears the media is doing a good enough job of that, but when it comes to rainking universities there is the gold standard us news and world reports. Sure their are others, but whatever metrics they use La Tech is superior, at the end of the day and hating on me can not change that fact. I admire your fans passion and say with out a doubt you are the 2nd most passionate fanbase in la.
    Trying to use diversity in an argument when it really comes down to admission standards is not a good metric. In that case could you make a case that SU and GSU are not more diverse?
    Edit: if you take the top 70% of any univeristy of course they will rank higher
    Do you know the definition of diversity? SU and GSU are not very diverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragin9221 View Post
    Can't get worked up for ragingolfer he is just a troll trying to stir the pot.
    No I stated a clear argument on the reason many outside of lafayette opose you calling yourseld UL and even a way to change that argument. Backed up with facts and yall turn it into a bash la tech thread (here is a troll why didnt you bash them on the football field). I am not saying others do not oppose the name change just to hate, but im not one of them.

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