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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    I'm only answering this because you completely missed the point on everything I've been saying, and then used quotation marks around random words to make it sound like things I said. I'm sorry that you, the passionate fan, don't understand the point I was making. Resorting to saying I'm in some state of "who cares about UL" is just ridiculous. I 100% support UL and any endeavor they wish to partake in to change the name of the university or perception of the university. I 100% support any person's right to call the university, teams, and anything else whatever they want. What is stupid, and only serves to hurt the university, is getting enraged at a random person for using the official name of the university. I'm not talking about Lafayette Leopards or anything else used to tarnish the actual names and nicknames of the university. There is a process for getting these things done, and stomping your feet and whining hasn't gotten certain fans anywhere other than creating a whole new batch of people that will try to hold it down. As far as getting my "jack crushed", you are welcome to try next time you are behind me. Until then, if you're going to go on a three paragraph rant please at least do it about the things I actually said.
    I didn't miss jack squat. I read and understood you completely. I didn't have to put words in your mouth... and my quotes marks weren't quoting you. I'll jack whoever needs it. And I don't ask permission. You're on here... another damn name thread creator... stomping your feet and whining about the few individuals that overreact when the name misuses occur. Who gives a ____? Do you think your Johnny come lately name behavior demands are something this forum needs another preaching on?

    You, my friend, are not qualified to debate the name. You have way more questions to clear up than you have a message to contribute. So STFU... get the history straight... and don't worry your little ___ about the name. When we say "UL", you say "UL". Got it?!

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    I agree the vast majority of fans support both schools in Lafayette Parish because of family ties, although this past year represented the first that UL attire out sold LSU in this Parish as per the head of the Lafayette Retailers Association. My experience has been just the opposite as for as which fan base represents the minority and which fan base represents the majority. First, I didn't see a minority stand up and cheer on the video from WBRZ at the LSU game when UL lost to Jackson State. I guess all those Tiger Baseball fans represent a small minority?

    I often hear LSU fans could care less about what happens in Lafayette with Cajun athletics. Yet, there was no shortage of LSU fans, students and other supporters knocking the Cajuns on twitter along the way. And because many fans of other programs like McNeese State, Louisiana Tech, ULM and other state schools are as you say LSU fans as well, that number of UL haters is much larger than you or other LSU fans will ever agree. I think that video only solidified what many UL fans have felt about LSU for a long time, along as the Tigers are in the national headlines they are an easy group to get along with. But if at any time it's not LSU programs in the limelight like NCAA Basketball Tournament, the Super Regional's and the Softball World Series, the comments start popping up on twitter, face book pages and the comment sections online under newspaper articles. It sure didn't seem like a minority this past year.

    For the record, I watch LSU Baseball and Football because I enjoy both. I met Coach Miles for the first time last year and spoke to him. I thought he was a good guy and enjoyed the conversation. I also think Coach Mainieri is a class guy and Alex Bregman and several other LSU athletes are class kids as well. They were all on twitter wishing UL well against Ole Miss and Mississippi State. Too bad their fan base couldn't follow their example.

    I know some people on this board can't go a day without mentioning LSU and I really don't care to read it. But when I read an LSU fan saying they are really the minority when it comes to hating the Cajun, the antidotal evidence has been overwhelming this past sport season that it is quite the opposite.
    Seems like I was referring to LSU fans in the LAFAYETTE area. I am sure there are LSU fans outside of Acadiana who see UL baseball & softball as a threat and thrive on their shortcomings. I have season tickets for UL football, basketball & LSU football. I have customers I offer the tickets to that will not attend a UL sporting event because of the number of LSU haters that attend such events. Regardless, in the Lafayette area, most people do support both schools, although the further away you get from the city of Lafayette, so does loyalty to UL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    Seems like I was referring to LSU fans in the LAFAYETTE area. I am sure there are LSU fans outside of Acadiana who see UL baseball & softball as a threat and thrive on their shortcomings. I have season tickets for UL football, basketball & LSU football. I have customers I offer the tickets to that will not attend a UL sporting event because of the number of LSU haters that attend such events. Regardless, in the Lafayette area, most people do support both schools, although the further away you get from the city of Lafayette, so does loyalty to UL.

    That is changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    I have customers I offer the tickets to that will not attend a UL sporting event because of the number of LSU haters that attend such events. Regardless, in the Lafayette area, most people do support both schools, although the further away you get from the city of Lafayette, so does loyalty to UL.
    How would anyone, "anyone" know?

    Regardless, now your talking about 40 years and a few generations of free for the taking marketing and it's effects on your perception. (accurate I might add)

    UL still hasn't decided to market to Acadiana, again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I didn't miss jack squat. I read and understood you completely. I didn't have to put words in your mouth... and my quotes marks weren't quoting you. I'll jack whoever needs it. And I don't ask permission. You're on here... another damn name thread creator... stomping your feet and whining about the few individuals that overreact when the name misuses occur. Who gives a ____? Do you think your Johnny come lately name behavior demands are something this forum needs another preaching on?

    You, my friend, are not qualified to debate the name. You have way more questions to clear up than you have a message to contribute. So STFU... get the history straight... and don't worry your little ___ about the name. When we say "UL", you say "UL". Got it?!
    You sound like one tough bad-ss. I'm sorry you still can't understand my posts. You, my friend, are a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    There is no law protecting "Texas" there can't be, "Texas" is a state.

    Only context and everyday use can protect the Texas brand/association for the university.

    Being "of" something does not a protection make.

    No law can ever say "Texas means University of Texas" only contextual use can create that connection.

    Only one university in Louisiana has the potential to establish contextual association with the stand alone word Louisiana.
    http://www.utexas.edu/trademarks/protected-marks

    See that little trademark after "Texas"? There's a law protecting that.

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    Default Re: Who got to Ben McDonald ?

    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    http://www.utexas.edu/trademarks/protected-marks

    See that little trademark after "Texas"? There's a law protecting that.
    See that little trademark after "Louisiana" on ever piece of fan apparel sold?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    http://www.utexas.edu/trademarks/protected-marks

    See that little trademark after "Texas"? There's a law protecting that.
    Contextual use numb nuts.....Trademarks mean nothing without it...

    BY the way...there is A&M Apparel sold with "Texas Aggies" printed on it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    Contextual use numb nuts.....Trademarks mean nothing without it...

    BY the way...there is A&M Apparel sold with "Texas Aggies" printed on it...
    Contextual use would apply to describing the university or any university in say, an athletic event, numbnuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...e_policies.pdf

    This is the last thing I'm posting about this and the link is a little off my main point anyway, but it does outline the state legislature for the university of louisiana system regarding names. No, I don't believe anyone should sit back and wait for a change that the university wants. But there are proper ways outlined to actually change the name. Obviously, we don't have the respect or ability or whatever it takes at this time to get it done or it would be done by now. All I'm saying is getting mad and vilifying someone for using the actual name is pointless and just makes the person look like a jerk. Take it however you want.
    6 more posts since your "last" post on this topic. You are being manhandled by people who know much more about this topic and have been living this struggle for a long time. I'm sure you will have some smartass condescending reply to this, but just know it only makes you look worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    6 more posts since your "last" post on this topic. You are being manhandled by people who know much more about this topic and have been living this struggle for a long time. I'm sure you will have some smartass condescending reply to this, but just know it only makes you look worse.
    prime example of what "not caring" about us looks like from LA A&M troll. we are LOUISIANA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    http://www.utexas.edu/trademarks/protected-marks

    See that little trademark after "Texas"? There's a law protecting that.
    That "law protecting that" is not a Texas law, the law that protects trademarks does not care about Texas any more than it cares about Uber.

    Texas (the U) acquired a contextual trademark through their own due diligence, not through some dedicated state law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    Contextual use would apply to describing the university or any university in say, an athletic event.
    Which is why using "Louisiana" is acceptable.

    Contextually speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    You sound like one tough bad-ss. I'm sorry you still can't understand my posts. You, my friend, are a moron.
    I have no worries about going up against you intellectually. I'm tired of your simple-minded approach to this subject. If you could have kept your message to a direct post stating that some (a very minor few) go overboard when our preferred nickname(s) are not used by "outsiders"... you would have been correct... and nothing further need be stated.

    You've meandered from that very simple (who gives a ____) comment... to questioning both our right to chosen nicknames... all the way to questioning if we shouldn't button up the entire nickname use until such time "we win more athletic contests" and then go seek to change our legal name.

    We've had this debate 50,000 times. We don't need simple-mined, johnny come lately, sessions on legal names versus nicknames. You continue to blather on and on about "legal names"... when you've been told repeatedly that we full well understand our "legal naming requirements"... and that we are discussing the use of the preferred "nicknames".

    Instead of being inquisitive on a subject that you just seem to have woke up and decided to chime in on... you've attempted to argue... argue that we are not "allowed" to use a nickname. You imply, ignorantly, that every nickname that ever came about was something that some legislative group got together and agreed to. Well, if that is part of your argument for this line of logic you're providing... you are the big moron in the room.

    You may not like that we have a name issue. Sorry about that. But, this has been going on for many decades... not just the moment in time that a law was established to direct the university in a specific legal naming convention. Due to the mechanisms that led to that legislative action, and the lawsuit that followed... is precisely WHY the nickname is a big issue to us. It's a "nickname". It is the equivalent of you having a name on your birth certificate that you either cut short or altogether used a different name. You cannot be told that you cannot use a "nickname". We use the nickname and we ask media to use it. We argue with the media about why they care about using a "legal name" versus a "nickname"... when in fact they use other program nicknames all of the time.

    The absolute only argument... that is valid... that you... in your BS posts haven't even touched on... is whether other entities "like" our nickname. Media isn't resolving our "right to a nickname". In all cases where media refuse to use our nickname, they're not doing so due to a legal requirement. They are doing so due to the objections of others. So, in all of your ramblings on this subject... THAT is the only argument to make. And it is purely subjective. There is no legal guide to nicknames.

    This entire BS topic aggravates the balance of solid fans on this forum. We, 98% of us, know what we're going to do. And you apparently are on board with the 2%... or you aren't really one of us to begin with. If you are a UL fan, then you need to get in a good solid group of 20 of us... in a face to face situation... and if you don't come away understanding the reasons behind the naming... you are either not a fan... or not intelligent or passionate enough to do anything but watch from the sidelines.

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    I still to this day believe, that all UL 1st semester students should be required to take a 1 hour class to teach them this history of our name debate. MOST don't know about it, don't understand it, and still use ULL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by justafan83 View Post
    We are not Nebraska, nor are we Texas.
    You are absolutely correct, we are not Nebraska or Texas, we are LOUISIANA! You are a genius!!

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    You nailed it J1M on your post ^
    I'm thinking he's a feaux fan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duggie35 View Post
    You are absolutely correct, we are not Nebraska or Texas, we are LOUISIANA! You are a genius!!
    Like you have to have a certain budget or athletic history before you deserved to be called what you request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunDreDog View Post
    I still to this day believe, that all UL 1st semester students should be required to take a 1 hour class to teach them this history of our name debate. MOST don't know about it, don't understand it, and still use ULL.
    Excellent.

    Every student coming over the Basin has been indoctrinated with ULL

    For students from north of Bunkie it was Lafayette.

    For students east of Iota it's UL Lafayette.

    Well very few of them come to UL know one iota of correct Louisiana nomenclature.

    UL needs to take 1st semester students to Cajun Basin, down through the tunnel deep inside The Swamp create a Bunkie down mentality and play a one-hour video on the new HD screen, doing exactly what you just said.

    While they are there they can ...

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    Brilliant idea, a coordinated effort to educate the students would be great. Do they (some) know that when you hold up the "hand sign" it doesn't have that extra L on it? So why say it or write it?


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