Baseball Question

[Turbine]

Q1: On Thinking Out Loud this morning it was said a batter who bats into a double play will not be credited with an RBI. True?

Q2: Is a second out that came fom a rundown considered a double play?

[VObserver]

_ Q1: On Thinking Out Loud this morning it was said a batter who bats into a double play will not be credited with an RBI. True?

Q2: Is a second out that came fom a rundown considered a double play? _

1. yes and no. If in the scorer's opinion the run would have scored anyway, the batter will be credited with an rbi. Also, if the DP is an outfield assist, say, 9-3, the batter can be credited with an RBI AND with a sac fly. If I were scoring, I would give the RBI on a 6-4-3 DP if the SS had to go significantly to his left to field the ball, or a 4-6-3 if the second baseman had to go significantly to his right. Otherwise, I would consider the run as having scored on a fielder's choice, and not credit an RBI. On a fly ball to the gap which is caught and a runner on first or second doubled up, I would credit the batter with an RBI and a sac fly.

2. If the action is continuous and the ball remains in play, ANY two outs on the same hit ball are considered a double play. The most common example of what you are talking about is the ground ball to first base, where the first baseman fields the ball and steps on the bag to remove the force at second, then throws to the SS covering second for a tag out, which the runner recognizes and attempts to return to first, where he is tagged out by the pitcher or first baseman on a return throw [3-6-1 or 3-6-3].

[CajunCharlie]

_ Q1: On Thinking Out Loud this morning it was said a batter who bats into a double play will not be credited with an RBI. True?

Q2: Is a second out that came fom a rundown considered a double play? _

More baseball questions:
Q1: What is a walk off home run, and is there such a thing as a walk off run?

Q2: What is slugging average, what does it mean, and how is it calculated?

[cjr3888]

As far as the walk off home run is concerned. It's just a figure of speech. Say the score is tied in the bottom of the 9th at 4-4 with bases loaded. If the batter hits a grand slam, the runner on 3rd scores and the game is over 5-4. Therefore the batter only must advance one base. I think I'm correct but I'm not positive.

[Turbine]

Any home run in the bottom of the ninth that wins the game.

The teams walk off the field. "Walk off Home Run"

"Walk off single" doesn't sound as good so we don't hear it.

Am I right?

ps Thanks VObserver

[CajunCharlie]

_ Any home run in the bottom of the ninth that wins the game.

The teams walk off the field. "Walk off Home Run"

"Walk off single" doesn't sound as good so we don't hear it.

Am I right?

ps Thanks VObserver _

The walk off home run explanation is logical. When did that expression begin?

[GoneGolfin]

As far as the walk off home run is concerned. It's just a figure of speech. Say the score is tied in the bottom of the 9th at 4-4 with bases loaded. If the batter hits a grand slam, the runner on 3rd scores and the game is over 5-4. Therefore the batter only must advance one base. I think I'm correct but I'm not positive.

No, all runs score in the event of a HR.

Brian

[GoneGolfin]

The walk off home run explanation is logical. When did that expression begin?

I first heard it on ESPN coverage of MLB years ago.

Brian

[GoneGolfin]

More baseball questions:
Q1: What is a walk off home run, and is there such a thing as a walk off run?

Q2: What is slugging average, what does it mean, and how is it calculated?

Walk-off HR has been answered. You can have a walk-off base hit that scores the winning run.

As for slugging percentage, it is used to calculate an average of total bases across at-bats. A HR counts as four bases. Hence, if a hitter hits a HR in one total at-bat, he would have a slugging percentage of 4.000. A single would be the same as calculated in batting average 1.000 (one total base). A double is two bases and a triple is three.

Ex.
6 at-bats (K, Ground out, Fly out, K, Single, HR)
This would result in a Slugging Percentage of .833 (the 5/6).

Brian

[CajunCharlie]

_ Walk-off HR has been answered. You can have a walk-off base hit that scores the winning run.

As for slugging percentage, it is used to calculate an average of total bases across at-bats. A HR counts as four bases. Hence, if a hitter hits a HR in one total at-bat, he would have a slugging percentage of 4.000. A single would be the same as calculated in batting average 1.000 (one total base). A double is two bases and a triple is three.

Ex.
6 at-bats (K, Ground out, Fly out, K, Single, HR)
This would result in a Slugging Percentage of .833 (the 5/6).

Brian _

Thanks, Brian. I really like sports but some of the sayings/expressions/idioms complicate things for me. Perhaps I am too shallow in that I listen/attend a sporting event for the excitement and athleticism of the participants. But you have educated me, and now I can sleep peacefully tonight.

[cjr3888]

_ No, all runs score in the event of a HR.

Brian _

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

[VObserver]

_ Thanks for clearing that up for me. _

All runs score on a 'walk off' homerun. HOWEVER: runners must actually cross the plate for their runs to count. If there are two outs and the batter does NOT run the bases, but turns and goes to the dugout, he will be called out and no runs will score, even if he hit the ball 600 feet to center field and out of the park. If he crosses first base, then goes to the dougout, he is credited with a single, called out for abandoning the basepath, and only the first run counts. If less than two are out, the batter is declared out and only the first run to score will count. Any other walk-off hit, only the necessary number of runs to win count.

[cjr3888]

Thats where I was confused. Good explanation.

[VObserver]

_ Thats where I was confused. Good explanation. _

This is essentially the same rule that applies on a passed ball on a third strike; or in any event it is very similar. On a third strike passed ball or wild pitch with two outs or less than two outs and first base open, the batter must be thrown out at first, exactly as if he had hit the ball in play; except that if the runner returns to the dugout without attempting to reach first he is called out for abandonment of the base path and the throw to first is unnecessary.

Also, if a baserunner, thinking that there are three outs, leaves his path to the next succeeding base and returns to the dugout, he will be declared out for abandoning the basepath.

In the walk off home run case, every runner must round the bases and touch home plate or be declared out for abandonment of the basepath. As a practical matter this rule is rarely enforced vigorously.