And like most of your ideas, there is very little thought put into them in concerns of budget or preception. Going Independent is another example of one of your ideas with very little rational thought put into it. We neither have the status nor the funds to survive outside of any conference ,and to demand any type of television money. We are not Texas or Notre Dame. The topic is not even worth discussion.
You make me giggle T.
All I am doing is thinking outside of the box.
What say you join me?
What will it hurt?
Oh, one last thing. I've been discussing this with several people on this board, and quite a few of them are intrigued. I won't reveal their names to you lest you give them similar treatment as you have given me.
I didn't bother to message you about this. I expected you to respond exactly the way you just did.
If being an independent is so rosy why aren't Idaho and NMSU dancing in the streets right now?
Things have changed, going independent is not as hard as it once was, that is not to say it wouldn't require work, lots of it. Here are some things that have changed.
In the old days most teams had 3 open dates a year to offer an Independent. Now most (not PAC 12) have 4.
In the old days there were 86 D1 teams to schedule with. Now there are over 120 with more being added every year.
In the old days the term money game was a joke, $250G. Today a good negotiator can get a million dollars easy.
If you are winning you will get paid to be on TV and won't have to share with a conference.
To me making indi work hinges on having a home town Oil Bowl.
Last fall, I didn't think Tech had a chance of getting into what was called a new conference then. In January the vision of that new conference began to fall apart with the MWC and CUSA deciding to add new members. At that point, Tech put together a series of initatives announced by Dr. Reneau in a letter campaign. At that point my opinon changed and when it was brought up to certain people, it was ignored. As for being an inside person, my emails carry no more weight with the people in the decision making positions then yours. I really don't care that Tech garnered membership from CUSA, what bothered me more was that our decision makers didn't look at what initatives Tech used to push a successful campaign into a membership.
First, it is not as "easy" as you think to get $1million for a payday as there are only a handful of schools like Florida, Texas and maybe LSU that are willing to offer that type of money to play. Even if you found more schools like that who pay what you state, will you just play them every year?
Second, while yes, there are more football programs now than in the "old days" the LARGE majority of those schools are in conferences which makes scheduling them just as hard as it made scheduling the 86 schools at one time and possibly harder since there were more independents back then.
Going Independent is just not a logical option at this point. Period.
I don't think scheduling would be that hard as an Independent and we keep ALL of the money from every game. What do we get from the SBC, $250K per year? The problem is bowl games. All of the bowls have tie-ins, so even with a great record, we might have trouble landing a bowl. What helped Boise State rise to prominence was having their own bowl game. With a 50,000+ renovated stadium and our own bowl game, Independent status in football only might work. Think what a bowl game in Lafayette would do for UL and for Lafayette. However, this would not be a permanent status. It would would be the quickest way to elevate our program and make us attractive to a major conference and jump right over CUSA. Otherwise, there is nowhere to go outside of CUSA and our leaders may have permanently blown that opportunity. Of course, we would have to find a conference for all other sports. Look at what Boise and SDSU are doing, looking at the WAC, Big West, or ANY conference for all other sports. Maybe the SBC would let us stay to balance UALR. It may not be doable and UL may not want to go that route, but I agree that it's time to think out of the box if we are ever going to elevate our program. Open dialogue should not be chastised.
It would make it more palatable to those who live and die with bowl games if the Oil Bowl/Energy Bowl at Cajun Field were a reality. Unlike most bowls, this bowl would serve the interests of an entire industry and not one silly company like R+L Carriers.
I would think it wouldn't be too hard to garner sponsors for this bowl game.
This city is ready-made to host this event, big time.
The next several dacades are going to be extremely profitable for the Energy sector.
A marriage of the UL athletic program and the Oil industry is long overdue and ripe for the picking.
This is the key to not only Indy status, but any hopes of Major Conference membership down the road.
The one thing that you have to admit... our management are not big athletic risk-takers. Not that your ideas on going independent don't have some attractive qualities, but is our management even capable of contemplating going independent? Again, I have no problem with the discussion. I get a kick out of your list of benefits for going independent and the rebuttals put up by others.
Not to pop you on this... but once you realize that Ron Paul cannot be elected... do you still vote for him?
Those factors -not being independent- may have contributed to the collapse. . . and then along came Baldwin.
There is no need to go the route of becoming an Independent. Four 16 member super conferences are in the process of forming that will change everything. Many schools in the ACC and BE will be left out. They will move quickly to establish a clear pecking order among the "have not" conferences. The ACC leftovers will join some of the BE leftovers to form a great basketball conference that plays pretty good football as well. Everything in what is left of the BE, along with the MWC, SBC, MAC, and CUSA will be up in the air again then. This is in the process of happening as we speak.
We have a hard enough time scheduling a decent home OOC basketball schedule.
Going independent would only make that worse. Plus within a conference, 8 football games are set for you. You only have to find 4 more. Try lining up 12 by yourself. And getting atleast 5/6 home games against competition your fans will want to see.
For those of you clamoring to pursue the independent idea sounds like the kid in the neghborhood that wants to take their ball and go home bc they got picked last in klickball. or the guy who resents women because some average looking chick (CUSA) scorned your advances.
CUSA will be the new WAC in less than 3 years. And thats not a good thing.
The traditional idea of conferences is changing. if the 4 super conference emerge, the new landscape of college atheltics will not resemble anything we have today. With that change will come new opportunities that we must seize.