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    Default Student Fees

    According to the chart in post 1, ( link) it looks like the student fee going to ULAthletics is currently around $14

    I'm not sure how much of the "Direct Institutional Support" comes from the State, but it seems like a per semester fee of $125 would break UL free from the States athletic welfare yoke.


    Based on
    16,000 Students
    Per semester Generates
    Yearly
    Current $14 $448,000
      $50 $1,600,000
      $75 $2,400,000
      $100 $3,200,000
    Free Point
    (from state)
    $106.37 $3,403,840
      $125 $4,000,000
      $150 $4,800,000
      $200 $6,400,000
      $225 $7,200,000
      $250 $8,000,000
      $275 $8,800,000
      $300 $9,600,000

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    Default Re: Student Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine
    According to the chart in post 1, ( link) it looks like the student fee going to ULAthletics is currently around $14

    I'm not sure how much of the "Direct Institutional Support" comes from the State, but it seems like a per semester fee of $125 would break UL free from the States athletic welfare yoke.


    Based on
    16,000 Students
    Per semester Generates
    Yearly
    Current $14 $448,000
      $50 $1,600,000
      $75 $2,400,000
      $100 $3,200,000
    Free Point
    (from state)
    $106.37 $3,403,840
      $125 $4,000,000
      $150 $4,800,000
      $200 $6,400,000
      $225 $7,200,000
      $250 $8,000,000
      $275 $8,800,000
      $300 $9,600,000
    Im really intrigued by those numbers. Since I became a student at UL, I've thought that if we were to raise ourselves substatially in sports, something like this will need to be done. I've found myself on both sides of the fence on this issue. On one side, I want us to be able to implement a higher athletic fee to the students, but on the other side, I understand why the state doesnt want this happening, so I have come up with this idea.

    I believe that any school, statewide, that does not charge students admission into sporting events should be allowed to tack on between 100$-150$ onto the semester fees. If tickets were sold to the general public for where students sit for football/basketball/baseball, these would be some prime time seats, and roughly, we get about 650$-700$ worth of value for a grand total of 14$. LSU would not be allowed to tack on any fee because they charge their students to go to the games. I dont know which other state universities charge students to go to games, but you get the picture. I very much want to see this program grow, and if we got roughly 4-5 mil extra a year from student fees, it would bump us up from the lowest rung on the NCAA totem poll and acctually allow us to be competitive economically with the CUSA's of the world.

    Tuffguy

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    Default Re: Student Fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuffguy21
    Im really intrigued by those numbers. Since I became a student at UL, I've thought that if we were to raise ourselves substatially in sports, something like this will need to be done. I've found myself on both sides of the fence on this issue. On one side, I want us to be able to implement a higher athletic fee to the students, but on the other side, I understand why the state doesnt want this happening, so I have come up with this idea.

    I believe that any school, statewide, that does not charge students admission into sporting events should be allowed to tack on between 100$-150$ onto the semester fees. If tickets were sold to the general public for where students sit for football/basketball/baseball, these would be some prime time seats, and roughly, we get about 650$-700$ worth of value for a grand total of 14$. LSU would not be allowed to tack on any fee because they charge their students to go to the games. I dont know which other state universities charge students to go to games, but you get the picture. I very much want to see this program grow, and if we got roughly 4-5 mil extra a year from student fees, it would bump us up from the lowest rung on the NCAA totem poll and acctually allow us to be competitive economically with the CUSA's of the world.

    Tuffguy
    I agree...we have what I consider to be a very low tuition so adding another $100 or more wouldn't bother me in the least. I understand that it would probably meet opposition because some students would simply say why should I pay more I don't even go to these athletic events but I say to bad lol. I pay $14 a semester and I go to a lot of athletic events so I get more than I deserve for $14. With the amount of events I go to every year it would probably cost a non student fan over $500.

    Damn the state for not allowing us to riase money this way, this is a way of life as a non BCS athletic program. I'm going to try to find out how much student fees top non BCS schools get such as TCU, Memphis, Boise State, and those type of team. I know FAU has large student fees but how much do other SUnbelt teams get from student fees? All of these r legit questions because student fees add much needed money to athletic programs and if other schools on our level are doing it then it does effect our ability to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364
    I agree...we have what I consider to be a very low tuition so adding another $100 or more wouldn't bother me in the least. I understand that it would probably meet opposition because some students would simply say why should I pay more I don't even go to these athletic events but I say to bad lol. I pay $14 a semester and I go to a lot of athletic events so I get more than I deserve for $14. With the amount of events I go to every year it would probably cost a non student fan over $500.

    Damn the state for not allowing us to riase money this way, this is a way of life as a non BCS athletic program. I'm going to try to find out how much student fees top non BCS schools get such as TCU, Memphis, Boise State, and those type of team. I know FAU has large student fees but how much do other SUnbelt teams get from student fees? All of these r legit questions because student fees add much needed money to athletic programs and if other schools on our level are doing it then it does effect our ability to compete.

    Well, as for the students who say "I dont go to sporting events anyway", thats a rediculous claim. If you buy season tickets and don't go to a game, thats YOUR falt. Essentially it would be the same concept. Regardless of the fact, your getting a tremendous deal for these games even at 200-300$ a year.

    Tuffguy

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    Default Cajuns, ULM last on Sun Belt financial list


      There's an old sports axiom that says there are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics.

    The same could probably be said for college athletic budgets, since each university's is unique and it is impossible to make totally accurate comparisons based on dollars only.

    But generalities are possible, and in the case of the Sun Belt Conference the bare numbers show one significant fact: The two Louisiana schools have the smallest athletic budgets among the league's football-playing institutions.

    According to figures from the 2004-05 season, the most recent that are available, the University of Louisiana had athletic revenues of $7,622,387 and athletic expenses of $8,157,543. UL Monroe's numbers were even lower, with revenues of $6,652,372 and expenses of $6,647,569.

    None of the other Sun Belt football schools whose figures were available had under $10.6 million budgeted for athletics, and two - Florida International and Florida Atlantic - had over $14 million in revenues.

    The rest of the story



    Dan McDonald
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    Default Help

    Just a note on the 2004-2005 numbers provided to the Indianapolis Star newspaper, and the numbers from the State of Louisiana audit for period ending June 2005.

    They do not match.

    Is it possible the Indianapolis Star numbers are 2003-2004?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine
    Just a note on the 2004-2005 numbers provided to the Indianapolis Star newspaper, and the numbers from the State of Louisiana audit for period ending June 2005.

    They do not match.

    Is it possible the Indianapolis Star numbers are 2003-2004?
    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetail.asp?CRITERIA=3

    General information Unit ID: 160658
    University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette Number of Full-time Undergraduates : 12,310
    104 UNIVERSITY CIR Men : 5,314
    LAFAYETTE Women :6,996


    Athletic Department information
    University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette
    201 Reinhardt Drive
    LAFAYETTE Reporting Year : 7/1/2004-6/30/2005
    Reporting Official : RAY AUTHEMENT
    Title : PRESIDENT
    Phone : 377-482-6467
    Sanctioning Body : NCAA Division I-A


    Revenues


    Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
    Basketball $490,276 $44,316 $534,592
    Football $1,286,266 $1,286,266
    Total Revenues of all Sports, except football and basketball, combined $732,256 $152,682 $884,938
    Total Revenues $2,508,798 $196,998 $2,705,796
    Not allocated by gender/sport $5,329,861
    Grand Total $8,035,657



    Expenses


    Men's Teams Women's Teams Total
    Basketball $798,555 $436,555 $1,235,110
    Football $2,607,302 $2,607,302
    Total Expenses of all Sports, except football and basketball, combined $1,091,411 $956,997 $2,048,408
    Total Expenses $4,497,268 $1,393,552 $5,890,820
    Not allocated by gender $2,144,837
    Grand Total Expenses $8,035,657


    You can search almost any school:

    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/Search.asp

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    Default Re: Help

    Quote Originally Posted by HOTBOUDIN
    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/InstDetail.asp?CRITERIA=3

    Revenues Grand Total $8,035,657
    Grand Total Expenses $8,035,657
    Very interesting because the State audit for the same period Link shows:

    Total operating revenues $8,673,753
    Total operating expenses $8,852,551

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    Default Re: Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine
    Very interesting because the State audit for the same period Link shows:

    Total operating revenues $8,673,753
    Total operating expenses $8,852,551
    something's fishy around here when the numbers are dead even...
    scary

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